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Q&A: Need Help Finding Round ~2 Ct. Diamond

By Mike Fried,

I’m really struggling on which attributes of a diamond are really most important. I’ve been looking for a round, ideal cut 1.90-2.00 carat diamond with F-G color, VS1-VS2 clarity and no florescence. Are there attributes which I should loosen in order to get a slightly cheaper diamond while still retaining all the qualities I want (brilliance and absolutely zero visible inclusions)?

I’d be happy to make some recommendations and guide you through the process. What type of setting are you considering? Yellow gold or white gold/platinum? Will it be a solitaire or does it have sidestones/pave? This may affect the colors that I recommend for the center diamond (as we explain in our post on color).

Let me know and I’d be happy to send you some suggestions.

Thanks for your quick reply.

Here are my answers to your questions below:

-Setting: I’m looking at a ~2mm 18K white gold ring with a solitaire setting (no sidestones/pave).

Can you also please offer me your thoughts on an EGL-certified stone vs. GIA? The jeweler I’ve been working with (J Edwards Diamonds, via a referral from a friend) suggested that I might be able to get a better deal going with an EGL diamond, though I know your site strongly suggests against doing that. Have you worked with J Edwards Diamonds in the past?

There is no such thing as a good deal with an EGL. EGL is used for one reason only; to make more money on the diamond. Forget about all the figuring (e.g. if I deduct two grades it may be worth it) and think of this. GIA is the gold standard and most liquid form of diamond sales (they are by far the easiest to sell); if someone uses EGL they make it more difficult to sell the diamond. The only reason that would be ok is if they make a higher profit on it.

Good to know. I’ll forward you the latest recommendation from J Edwards so you can take a look and let me know what you think.

Thanks again for your advice

Which one did you decide to go with?

FYI. Here are the diamonds that J Edwards is recommending. Thoughts?

Begin forwarded message:

Hello X…. I have searched our database and have found a few diamonds that are possibilities..

The one that I think is the best fit for the money is…

2.17 ct round, G color, SI1 clarity… GIA certificate, Cut grade, excellent, no fluorescence.. $23,393. Although you did not mention an SI1, a GIA graded SI1 is so close to a VS2, that I think you should consider it.

Also have the following..

2.01 ct round, H color, VS1 clarity, GIA certificate, Cut grade very good (still ideal), no fluorescence… $26,275

2.10 ct round, H color, SI1 clarity, AGS certificate, Cut grade excellent, no fluorescence… $23,000

Here is another possibility..

2.01 ct round, G color, VVS2 clarity, EGL certificate, Cut grade very good, no fluorescence… $21,869

FYI.. we usually do not recommend EGL certificates as they typically are not as accurate as GIA… Because their reputation is not as strong as the GIA, the prices are less. But we would have to be careful.. and make our own determination about it when we see it. It may or may not be what we want. But it might be worth taking a look.

Of all the stones, I think the first one (2.17) is probably the best buy… GIA accuracy, and although an SI1, it will still be a very strong, clean clarity. And the G color will be very strong and brilliant.

I do have others available in the $30’s… but I think these should have everything you are looking for.. while saving some money.

The mounting is no problem.. once you choose the diamond.

Please let me know how to proceed.

Please get me the GIA numbers so I can look them up online.

Here is the GIA number [no longer available] of one of the diamonds I’ve been looking at through J Edwards. Let me know what you think?

 

I looked at the cert. I’d say that the diamond has a 25-35% chance of having eye-visible inclusions. That, and the fact that it isn’t a great price, would make me question the point of going with them. Its not a bad deal, but I don’t see any positives to it. Look at this diamond:

https://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS2-Excellent-Cut-Round-Diamond-1503286.asp

This is a beautiful diamond. Should I be at all concerned about this one having faint fluorescence?

Also, is “Excellent” cut the same as “Ideal” cut?

Faint fluorescence isn’t an issue at all. Also ‘Ideal’ and ‘excellent’ are the same thing. AGS uses the term Ideal, while GIA uses the term Excellent.

It looks like the stone you recommended below isn’t available any longer.

However, I did find the following diamond and setting. Do you mind taking a look both and letting me know what you think? In particular, I’m a little worried that a band that narrow (1.6-1.9mm) won’t be big enough to support a stone of that size. Should I be worried about this? Also, do you think this stone is a good value?

https://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS2-Excellent-Cut-Round-Diamond-1437567.asp

https://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/18k-white-gold-pave-set-4-prong-diamond-engagement-ring.html

I’ve also attached the stone’s GIA certificate for your review.

GIACert

Thanks so much for your help,

…….

One more thing – do you think there’s any issue with the main stone being H color and the side stones in the ring being F-G color? I’ve read that you have to be careful about matching the color of the main and side stones.

The color of the diamonds is not a concern at all. That is a beautiful diamond and a great buy.

The setting will support it without a problem. The question of size though, is more a question of style. And, as my girlfriend can attest to, I am not the right one to ask about that 🙂

Let me know what you decide.

Ok, this makes me feel better. This stone and setting is my favorite of the many combos I looked at over the last few weeks.

I will buy both this morning.

I really appreciate your guidance and quick responses!

That’s great. Let me know how it looks when it arrives.

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