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Q&A: Help Finding a Round Diamond for a Platinum Pave Setting for Under $15k In Total

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Hello! Thank you so much for the information you have provided on your website. I have found it extremely helpful in understanding how someone goes about buying an engagement ring and down to earth, something a common reader can easily understand.

I’ve just started looking around for an engagement ring for my girlfriend for a couple weeks now. Many of my friends (and my soon to be brother in law) used Blue Nile, but I’ve found your reviews on various online vendors very eye opening.

I’ve already decided on the ring setting (petite pave french crown size 6) but I’m having trouble choosing a diamond given all the parameters you can choose from. I’d like to stick to a budget of $10,000 to $15,000 with the following Cs:

1.50 carat size
Round Ideal Cut
H Color
Clarity: Sl1 or higher
Minimal or no blue fluorescence

I was originally going to buy a Blue Nile diamond but I’m paranoid without being able to see the diamond, I’d have to get a VS1 at least (though that doesn’t even guarantee an eye clean diamond. I’ve looked through a number of James Allen diamonds but I can’t tell which ones would be truly eye clean since I can always detect some sort of blemish (even so zoomed in and all!).

I’d prefer to purchase from James Allen but would really appreciate it if you could provide some recommendations.

Thanks!

Just to make sure we are on the same page here, is your setting going to be in white gold? In this case, even I color is perfectly fine and the diamond will look fantastic.

Here is and option I found for you and your peace of mind:
www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.60-carat-i-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-1020382?a_aid=dmnd1357

This diamond is well cut, eye-clean and bright. There is still some room in your budget if you’d want to get a larger carat. There is a crystal on its table. It doesn’t seem significant, but to be sure of that, contact JA directly and ask them to have it inspected by their gemologists.

What do you think?

I wasn’t actually planning on getting white gold, but instead a platinum ring setting like this:
Blue Nile Studio Petite French Pavé Crown Engagement Ring

or
www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/platinum-petite-pave-crown-diamond-engagement-ring-item-53023?a_aid=dmnd1357

Would an “I” colour grade still appear generally colourless? The diamond you suggested is very nice, but it is at the top of my budget. I was hoping to spend about $15K for the ring altogether actually (so I’ll need about $2-3K for the ring setting). So my budget for the diamond alone is actually $12K.

What do you think of these two diamonds?
www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.52-carat-i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-1040892?a_aid=dmnd1357

www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.52-carat-i-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-1040971?a_aid=dmnd1357

They look clean but they’re only certified by IGI.

Thanks so much!

Ok, thanks for the clarification. For the BN setting an I color is still perfectly fine, but the JA one has a small halo around the top, therefore I’d go for an H color to be on a safe side here. I’ll send you some options for both of them and then you can decide.

Have you purchased one of the diamonds you sent me? They are both no longer available. They’re superbly cut, but we recommend avoiding IGI lab if possible. IGI lab is less consistent and they inflate the color/clarity grades by one (average). Thus, these diamonds might be too yellow for your purpose.

I love these alternatives for you:
www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.60-carat-i-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-824486?a_aid=dmnd1357

www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.51-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-681817?a_aid=dmnd1357

They’re both eye-clean and very well cut.

Thoughts?

No I didn’t purchase either of the two IGI diamonds I mentioned in my last email but that was quick though! I do like the second diamond you’ve listed but it is really at the top end of my budget.

Would you mind if I asked you if you think there would be a notable difference in cut brilliance if I were to purchase a Brian Gavin H&A round diamond at all? Would it be worth it from just looking at the diamond (i.e. don’t need magnification to appreciate the difference) and does the diamond sparkle that much more in your experience?

Thanks!

I wouldn’t mind at all. Brian Gavin is an excellent choice. He is known as one of the worlds experts when it comes to perfectly cut diamonds. BGD’s Signature diamonds are all incredibly brilliant and we love to recommend them. We don’t think any other vendor comes near the cut quality that BGD offers. The best thing about their diamonds is that you can easily drop one grade in color and it’ll still look fantastic.

Here is one that should fit the bill:
www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.335-j-vs1-round-diamond-ags-104084595012&a_aid=y

This one will be perfect for either setting you are considering. It’s is superbly cut and extremely brilliant.

What do you think?

That is a beautiful diamond and a really good value – I think that’s the one!

I’ve already been in contact with representatives from Brian Gavin to see if they can replicate the ring setting I showed you before from Blue Nile.

……

In the 4th photo (red) on the BG diamond, there appears to be some sort of purple shape near the perimeter of the diamond.

Would you happen to know if there was anything to worry about there? Also, would the J colour look relatively colourless still?

Thanks again! 🙂

We don’t put much stock into these pictures. The real photo of the diamond shows its eye-cleanliness and because of the BG’s cut, you have nothing to worry about.

The same applies to the color. J is absolutely fine here. The added brilliance allows for that.

I’ve been working with BG in the design of a custom engagement ring and I’d like to thank you for all your help!

I’ve been thinking of changing the diamond to a slightly upsized diamond. Would you mind having a look?
www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.398-i-vs1-round-diamond-ags-104086279038?a_aid=y

Thanks!

My pleasure, I’m glad things have been working out so well for you!

I took a look at the diamond and it’s beautiful. The cut is outstanding, it’s perfectly eye-clean and will make a stunning ring. If you can let me know how it looks in person, I’d appreciate it.

And there it is! It just arrived today!

Difficult to focus with my phone camera (probably cause of the diamonds).

The pictures are great and the ring is fantastic! I’m glad you like it.

I wish you and your partner a life of happiness and fulfillment.

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